Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read   Cars Lounge > Cars Lounge > Saab Performance upgrade User Name Remember Me? Password Page 1 of 9 1 2 3 > Last »   Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes   #1   11-11-2005, 05:42 AM Len Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Performance upgrade I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero 210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECU software with a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two (£2600+) involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42 BHP. Swedish company BSR seem to offer a similar ECU software upgrade via their own PPC unit which they claim gives an extra 37BHP for only £500. Does anyone have any experience of either a Hirsch or BSR ECU upgrade? Thanks Len View Public Profile Find all posts by Len Add Len to Your Buddy List   #2   11-11-2005, 05:00 PM Gabriel Shaw Junior Member   Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11 Performance upgrade I have just had the stage 1 Hirsch upgrade to my 05 9.5 2.0 lpt taking it from 150 bhp to 220 bhp. It only involved an ECU reprogram (about 40 minutes). The performance improvement is significant. The reason that I went for Hirsch is that is fitted by Saab dealers and all Saab warranty's remain intact. My insurance company seemed more pleased that it was approved and fitted by a Saab dealer. At the moment there is a special on till the end of November on 03 to 05 cars for £675 at Squires Furneaux in Dunstable or Welwyn Garden City. "Len" <len_charnock@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:dl273f$jc4$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com... Quote: I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECU softwarewith a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two (£2600+)involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42 BHP. Swedish company BSR seem to offer a similar ECU software upgrade via their own PPC unit which they claim gives an extra 37BHP for only £500. Does anyone have any experience of either a Hirsch or BSR ECU upgrade? Thanks Gabriel Shaw View Public Profile Find all posts by Gabriel Shaw Add Gabriel Shaw to Your Buddy List   #3   11-12-2005, 03:28 AM Seany Junior Member   Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25 Performance upgrade Len waffled ... Quote: I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero 210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECU software with a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two (£2600+) involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42 BHP. Gabriel then quipped..... Quote: have just had the stage 1 Hirsch upgrade to my 05 9.5 2.0 lpt taking it from 150 bhp to 220 bhp. OMG ..... that is nearly a 50% hike in power!!! Those figures correct?? "Gabriel Shaw" <gabriel@gabriel.plus.com> wrote in message news:43753ed0$0$18860$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... Quote: I have just had the stage 1 Hirsch upgrade to my 05 9.5 2.0 lpt taking itfrom 150 bhp to 220 bhp. It only involved an ECU reprogram (about 40minutes). The performance improvement is significant. The reason that I went for Hirsch is that is fitted by Saab dealers and all Saab warranty's remain intact. My insurance company seemed more pleased that it was approved and fitted by a Saab dealer. At the moment there is a special on till the end of November on 03 to 05 cars for £675 at Squires Furneaux in Dunstable or Welwyn Garden City. "Len" <len_charnock@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:dl273f$jc4$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com... Quote: I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECU softwarewith a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two (£2600+)involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42 BHP. Swedish company BSR seem to offer a similar ECU software upgrade via their own PPC unit which they claim gives an extra 37BHP for only £500. Does anyone have any experience of either a Hirsch or BSR ECU upgrade? Thanks Seany View Public Profile Find all posts by Seany Add Seany to Your Buddy List   #4   11-12-2005, 04:32 AM Gabriel Shaw Junior Member   Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11 Performance upgrade That's what it said on the packet and cars performance leaves me with no doubt about the correctness of this claim. Look on Hirsch website http://www.hirsch-performance.ch/motor_e.htm for full data on 9.3 and also on another page for the 9.5 "Seany" <se.ryan@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote in message news:7lkdf.1808$Gz1.1509@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... Quote: Len waffled ... Quote: I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero 210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECU software with a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two (£2600+) involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42 BHP. Gabriel then quipped..... Quote: have just had the stage 1 Hirsch upgrade to my 05 9.5 2.0 lpt taking it from 150 bhp to 220 bhp. OMG ..... that is nearly a 50% hike in power!!! Those figures correct?? "Gabriel Shaw" <gabriel@gabriel.plus.com> wrote in message news:43753ed0$0$18860$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... Quote: I have just had the stage 1 Hirsch upgrade to my 05 9.5 2.0 lpt taking itfrom 150 bhp to 220 bhp. It only involved an ECU reprogram (about 40minutes). The performance improvement is significant. The reason that I went for Hirsch is that is fitted by Saab dealers and all Saab warranty's remain intact. My insurance company seemed more pleased that it was approved and fitted by a Saab dealer. At the moment there is a special on till the end of November on 03 to 05 cars for £675 at Squires Furneaux in Dunstable or Welwyn Garden City. "Len" <len_charnock@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:dl273f$jc4$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com... Quote: I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECUsoftware with a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two(£2600+) involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42BHP. Swedish company BSR seem to offer a similar ECU software upgrade via their own PPC unit which they claim gives an extra 37BHP for only £500. Does anyone have any experience of either a Hirsch or BSR ECU upgrade? Thanks Gabriel Shaw View Public Profile Find all posts by Gabriel Shaw Add Gabriel Shaw to Your Buddy List   #5   11-13-2005, 01:07 AM Seany Junior Member   Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 25 Performance upgrade Now that is definitely worth the money. How is it Len says he may only get a 20 bhp hike for the same upgrade (granted it is a different engine, but why so different?) "Gabriel Shaw" <gabriel@gabriel.plus.com> wrote in message news:4375e0e5$0$63082$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net... Quote: That's what it said on the packet and cars performance leaves me with no doubt about the correctness of this claim. Look on Hirsch website http://www.hirsch-performance.ch/motor_e.htm for full data on 9.3 and also on another page for the 9.5 Seany View Public Profile Find all posts by Seany Add Seany to Your Buddy List   #6   11-13-2005, 02:34 AM Colin Stamp Junior Member   Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 150 Performance upgrade On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:07:07 GMT, "Seany" <se.ryan@NOSPAMntlworld.com> wrote: Quote: Now that is definitely worth the money. How is it Len says he may only get a20 bhp hike for the same upgrade (granted it is a different engine, but whyso different?) The LPT engine isn't so highly tuned to start with, so it can be taken further with a simple boost upgrade than the OP's HOT engine. You could think of the HOT engine as an LPT with the boost upgrade already in place (along with a few other uprated hardware bits). Cheers, Colin. Colin Stamp View Public Profile Find all posts by Colin Stamp Add Colin Stamp to Your Buddy List   #7   11-13-2005, 06:30 AM murphwiz Junior Member   Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16 Performance upgrade Len wrote: Quote: I have been considering Saab's recommended Hirsch upgrade for my 93 Aero 210BHP convertible. Stage one (£700+) is simply modifying the ECU software with a PPC unit which only gives an extra 20BHP, stage two (£2600+) involves a new exhaust and intercooler but gives an extra 42 BHP. Swedish company BSR seem to offer a similar ECU software upgrade via their own PPC unit which they claim gives an extra 37BHP for only £500. Does anyone have any experience of either a Hirsch or BSR ECU upgrade? Thanks Hirsch won't grenade your engine with prolonged use ;-) murphwiz View Public Profile Find all posts by murphwiz Add murphwiz to Your Buddy List   #8   09-22-2006, 12:28 PM FatTonny_x Junior Member   Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1 Brr, i need link to site with info about diets Hello.How are you?Please tell meWhere i'll can find site with subj diets?P.S. Thanks u 4 your help.Have a nice day FatTonny_x View Public Profile Send a private message to FatTonny_x Find all posts by FatTonny_x Add FatTonny_x to Your Buddy List   #9   09-28-2006, 05:12 PM B3r7_1957 Junior Member   Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1 hmmm... Nice questionTry to find in Googleor here: weight-loss.cr4ix7.com B3r7_1957 View Public Profile Send a private message to B3r7_1957 Find all posts by B3r7_1957 Add B3r7_1957 to Your Buddy List   #10   10-05-2006, 10:49 AM Green_Monkey23 Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1 Small problem... Sorry for your time.... 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