05-07-2006, 10:49 PM
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let's talk about OBD code readers
there's a plethora of these readers around from the inexpensive ones
that will just read the codes to ones that plug into a laptop and do
??? to really expensive ones that dealers sell.
Who has experience with what??
to start this off, I have an INOVA unit - for the $100 I paid, it will
read codes and tell me which of the polution monitors are set, but it
provides no readout of real time data including O2 sensors or MAF
values, etc.
I'd like to find something that provides more useful diagnostic data,
hence this thread.
anyone?
Bill
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05-08-2006, 06:16 PM
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William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:
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there's a plethora of these readers around from the inexpensive ones that will just read the codes to ones that plug into a laptop and do ??? to really expensive ones that dealers sell. Who has experience with what?? to start this off, I have an INOVA unit - for the $100 I paid, it will read codes and tell me which of the polution monitors are set, but it provides no readout of real time data including O2 sensors or MAF values, etc. I'd like to find something that provides more useful diagnostic data, hence this thread. anyone?
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You have a 97, right? OBD-II.
I looked into these a few years back when I had a problem with my A/C.
The Bosch "Hammer" was the thing to get (except that it was gianormously
expensive then) since there were not a bunch of OBD readers out then for
my 95. Lucky for me, I found the problem at the end of summer. It was
a loose vacuum line. Niice. OBD-II reader were around then and this
site came under my browser at the time:
http://tools.baumtools.com/index.jsp?menu=por
Looking again, they they've got much better tools now, including the
Hammer. No real prices posted. That's _not_ a good sign. I've never
called them to check, but it used to be that some of the software ones
were [only] ~$500. Not too bad if they fully function. They must be
cheaper now.
You could also email Robin from http://www.p-car.com/ . He's a 993 guy
and may know of something if you don't see anything at Baumtools. You
could also search through Rennlist, etc.
Let us know what happens.
DS
95 993 Coupe
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05-08-2006, 07:26 PM
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let's talk about OBD code readers
the current state of the technology is that there are readers that
show only the codes from about $35 and up, ones that show dynamic data
on a screen from about $250 and up, ones that connect to computers for
$80 and up (also palm and win CE). The problem is that they all read
the required codes, and the standard parameters (if they read
parameters at all), but it really isn't clear which if any support a
993. Robin chimed in elsewhere that the OBD-2 site's unit was what he
had - that's a really weird site, there are plenty of other choices -
I'm hoping someone has tried a bunch recently and can say that "this
exact model is great for 993's"
yes, my car is OBD II, though the 944s I watch over aren't (and of
course my 356 is pretty non-computerized.... :-)
I think anyone with an OBDII car (e.g. 96 or later) should at least
have the cheap code reader, but I"m trying to chase down a "check
engine light" issue that needs more than just knowing that it's due to
a rich mixture on side 1
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You have a 97, right? OBD-II.I looked into these a few years back when I had a problem with my A/C.The Bosch "Hammer" was the thing to get (except that it was gianormouslyexpensive then) since there were not a bunch of OBD readers out then formy 95. Lucky for me, I found the problem at the end of summer. It wasa loose vacuum line. Niice. OBD-II reader were around then and thissite came under my browser at the time:http://tools.baumtools.com/index.jsp?menu=porLooking again, they they've got much better tools now, including theHammer. No real prices posted. That's _not_ a good sign. I've nevercalled them to check, but it used to be that some of the software oneswere [only] ~$500. Not too bad if they fully function. They must becheaper now.You could also email Robin from http://www.p-car.com/ . He's a 993 guyand may know of something if you don't see anything at Baumtools. Youcould also search through Rennlist, etc.Let us know what happens.DS95 993 Coupe
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Bill
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to contact me, do not reply to this message,
instead correct this address and use it
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05-09-2006, 06:06 PM
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let's talk about OBD code readers
William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:
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the current state of the technology is that there are readers that show only the codes from about $35 and up, ones that show dynamic data on a screen from about $250 and up, ones that connect to computers for $80 and up (also palm and win CE). The problem is that they all read the required codes, and the standard parameters (if they read parameters at all), but it really isn't clear which if any support a 993. Robin chimed in elsewhere that the OBD-2 site's unit was what he had - that's a really weird site, there are plenty of other choices - I'm hoping someone has tried a bunch recently and can say that "this exact model is great for 993's"
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Ohhh, you want answers. Those cost extra.
Yes, the OBD site is kinda hard to read, but their links page has some
good links. Have you tried calling Baumtools? I would think that they
would have some answers. Did you post to Rennlist? You'll probably get
several knowledgable answers there.
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yes, my car is OBD II, though the 944s I watch over aren't (and of course my 356 is pretty non-computerized.... :-) I think anyone with an OBDII car (e.g. 96 or later) should at least have the cheap code reader, but I"m trying to chase down a "check engine light" issue that needs more than just knowing that it's due to a rich mixture on side 1
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Let us know what you find.
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05-09-2006, 08:03 PM
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On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:06:05 -0700, The Dead Senator
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William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote:
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the current state of the technology is that there are readers that show only the codes from about $35 and up, ones that show dynamic data on a screen from about $250 and up, ones that connect to computers for $80 and up (also palm and win CE). The problem is that they all read the required codes, and the standard parameters (if they read parameters at all), but it really isn't clear which if any support a 993. Robin chimed in elsewhere that the OBD-2 site's unit was what he had - that's a really weird site, there are plenty of other choices - I'm hoping someone has tried a bunch recently and can say that "this exact model is great for 993's"
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Ohhh, you want answers. Those cost extra.Yes, the OBD site is kinda hard to read, but their links page has somegood links. Have you tried calling Baumtools? I would think that theywould have some answers. Did you post to Rennlist? You'll probably getseveral knowledgable answers there.
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yes, my car is OBD II, though the 944s I watch over aren't (and of course my 356 is pretty non-computerized.... :-) I think anyone with an OBDII car (e.g. 96 or later) should at least have the cheap code reader, but I"m trying to chase down a "check engine light" issue that needs more than just knowing that it's due to a rich mixture on side 1
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Let us know what you find.
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bottom posting for a change just to keep all on their toes
yes, posted to both renlist and rentec, and various other forums. So
far, I have gotten a few "I have this tool" type responses, but no one
has chimed in with a strong recommendation. I've tried calling
vendors, mostly they don't answer the phone. The Rentec list does
have a good discussion of a tool for the 996, but that one does not
(yet) support the 993). The search continues.
Bill
www.wbnoble.com
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instead correct this address and use it
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