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Old 08-03-2006, 08:59 PM
Wojciech Moczydlowski Wojciech Moczydlowski is offline
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I am planning on getting a new 2006 Prius.

I would like to hear from others who own a 2006 and see exactly what
your gas mileage is in the city and the highway. Please indicate if you
use the AC and driving habits etc.

I am looking for people whom have did the math rather then just how many
miles to the fillup.

Start with a full tank. Drive and write down miles driven. Fillup with
fuel. Take miles driven and divide
by the number of gallons used to fillup the car.

I know that everyone knows how to do this, but the reason I specify this
method is because I want an accurate
reading.

The window sticker says 60 in the city and 51 on the highway. I have a hard
time believing this to be real world
mileage as I have never gotten EPA sticker mileage on any car I have ever
owned. So before I take the plunge and
buy this car verses another to save fuel, I want to know what I'm getting
into.

Thanks so much and any other information you find may be useful to me, please
post or E-mail directly to me.


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Old 08-03-2006, 09:14 PM
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In article <3c8293f0e8b8c8857869493ab2@news.mia.bellsouth.net>,
nospam@nospam.org wrote:
Quote:
I would like to hear from others who own a 2006 and see exactly what your gas mileage is in the city and the highway. Please indicate if you use the AC and driving habits etc. I am looking for people whom have did the math rather then just how many miles to the fillup.


The car has a built-in mileage computer. According to that computer, I
averaged 51-52 MPG from last September through the end of May of this
year. Mileage dropped to about 48 in June and 46 in July, but it's now
back up to 51.

I live in the Phoenix area, and temperatures were 110+ most of June and
July. Now they're in the high 90s or low 100s.

My driving is a mixture of metropolitan-area freeway and suburban/rural.
I use cruise control wherever possible and try to keep it set at 65 on
the freeways.
Quote:
Start with a full tank. Drive and write down miles driven. Fillup with fuel. Take miles driven and divide by the number of gallons used to fillup the car.


The Prius in the US has a bladder inside the gas tank, so fillups are
not consistent because of bladder elasticity changing with temperatures.

Also keep in mind that a ten percent variance from 55 MPG (EPA average
MPG for the Prius) is 5.5 MPG, whereas a ten percent variance from 20
MPG is only 2 MPG. When comparing variances from the EPA rating use
percentages, not absolute numbers of miles per gallon.
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Thanks so much and any other information you find may be useful to me, please post or E-mail directly to me.


How do you expect anyone to email directly to nospam@nospam.org?

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Old 08-03-2006, 09:26 PM
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nospam@nospam.org wrote:
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I am planning on getting a new 2006 Prius. I would like to hear from others who own a 2006 and see exactly what your gas mileage is in the city and the highway. Please indicate if you use the AC and driving habits etc. I am looking for people whom have did the math rather then just how many miles to the fillup. Start with a full tank. Drive and write down miles driven. Fillup with fuel. Take miles driven and divide by the number of gallons used to fillup the car. I know that everyone knows how to do this, but the reason I specify this method is because I want an accurate reading. The window sticker says 60 in the city and 51 on the highway. I have a hard time believing this to be real world mileage as I have never gotten EPA sticker mileage on any car I have ever owned. So before I take the plunge and buy this car verses another to save fuel, I want to know what I'm getting into. Thanks so much and any other information you find may be useful to me, please post or E-mail directly to me.


Who is me? I missed your name. And your e-mail address is
nospam@nospam.org? There are ways of posting your e-mail address so
that it is not machine readable...

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Old 08-03-2006, 11:48 PM
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> "Michelle Steiner" wrote:
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The car has a built-in mileage computer. According to that computer, I averaged 51-52 MPG from last September through the end of May of this year. Mileage dropped to about 48 in June and 46 in July, but it's now back up to 51. I live in the Phoenix area, and temperatures were 110+ most of June and July. Now they're in the high 90s or low 100s.


M.S.
I do not understand how your Prius can get such good of mileage. I'm in
the same hot environment in the So. Cal Central Valley and I'm only getting
38 mpg now with AC running almost always. Very odd, although the local
dealer has no explanation as to why a couple of Pri's in a company pool vary
so widely in their mpg's. Even though the drivers rotate between them, they
still produce the same mpg for the most part (one at 37 and the other at
46). Must be good ones and bad ones?

Best I did was 51 mpg in San Francisco, but that area didn't require AC.
Fwiw, my AC does work pretty darn well and cools down within two minutes or
so. Maybe the compressor drag accounts for some of the differences?

Running I-5 the way I do (85+) can get it down into the upper 20's to lower
30's. Also, our gas is pretty watered down during the summer months with
the "blend." Don't know if Arizona has accepted the watered-down ethanol
stuff yet?

B~


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Old 08-04-2006, 01:31 AM
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<nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
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I am planning on getting a new 2006 Prius. I would like to hear from others who own a 2006 and see exactly what your gas mileage is in the city and the highway. Please indicate if you use the AC and driving habits etc. I am looking for people whom have did the math rather then just how many miles to the fillup. Start with a full tank. Drive and write down miles driven. Fillup with fuel. Take miles driven and divide by the number of gallons used to fillup the car. I know that everyone knows how to do this, but the reason I specify this method is because I want an accurate reading. The window sticker says 60 in the city and 51 on the highway. I have a hard time believing this to be real world mileage as I have never gotten EPA sticker mileage on any car I have ever owned. So before I take the plunge and buy this car verses another to save fuel, I want to know what I'm getting into. Thanks so much and any other information you find may be useful to me, please post or E-mail directly to me.

I can tell a Prius isn't in your future. Buy something else which already
has a bad reputation that can't suffer from more negativity.
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:56 AM
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"B. Peg" <bent_peg@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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M.S. I do not understand how your Prius can get such good of mileage. I'm in the same hot environment in the So. Cal Central Valley and I'm only getting 38 mpg now with AC running almost always. Very odd, although the local dealer has no explanation as to why a couple of Pri's in a company pool vary so widely in their mpg's. Even though the drivers rotate between them, they still produce the same mpg for the most part (one at 37 and the other at 46). Must be good ones and bad ones?


I suspect there are some Prius that have undiagnosed problems that drop fuel
economy into the 30s. We used to see a lot more of those reports in the
Yahoo Prius forum, but they have become less common for some reason.

Assuming your tire pressures are okay (the stock pressures will cost you
about 5 mpg and wear the tires rapidly in the first generation - not sure
about the current version), there are a couple things that have been known
to cause such poor mileage. The first one is easy enough: some shops
overtension the parking brake cable and the parking brakes drag. If you use
the parking brakes regularly that goes away in a week or two, but applying
the parking brake hard and releasing it about ten times apparently does the
same trick. The other one was only reported once: the fuel injectors tested
bad and were replaced under warranty. Problem solved.

Mike (getting about 50 mpg in Flagstaff until we changed tires, now mid-40s)


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Old 08-04-2006, 05:15 AM
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In article <IZCAg.212935$mF2.15395@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"B. Peg" <bent_peg@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Quote:
I do not understand how your Prius can get such good of mileage. I'm in the same hot environment in the So. Cal Central Valley and I'm only getting 38 mpg now with AC running almost always.


I don't know why you're getting such low mileage. As I said, I tend to
keep at 65 on the freeway; most of the rural driving is at 45 to 50, and
in the city it's 25-35. The lowest I've ever had was 42 MPG, and that
was on my first tank.

I make heavy use of the cruise control whenever I can, and the rest of
the time, I keep a light foot on the go-pedal, and try pulse-and-glide
whenever I'm able if I can't use the cruise control.

I know people who routinely get the high 50s or even low 60s; I don't
know how they do it.
Quote:
Running I-5 the way I do (85+) can get it down into the upper 20's to lower 30's. Also, our gas is pretty watered down during the summer months with the "blend." Don't know if Arizona has accepted the watered-down ethanol stuff yet?


We get MTBE in the Winter and ethanol in the Summer.

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Old 08-04-2006, 05:16 AM
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In article <Gt2dnQtC88WD2U7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@sedona.net>,
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
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Mike (getting about 50 mpg in Flagstaff until we changed tires, now mid-40s)


What tires did you get? I want to avoid them when I have to change
tires.

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Old 08-04-2006, 10:24 AM
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"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
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In article <Gt2dnQtC88WD2U7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@sedona.net>, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
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Mike (getting about 50 mpg in Flagstaff until we changed tires, now mid-40s)
What tires did you get? I want to avoid them when I have to change tires.

I got Yokohamas. In fairness, I haven't bothered to see what pressure I can
run them at; if I can do 42/40 they should be better. However, they are 195s
and not LRR so there may be limits....

Mike


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Old 08-04-2006, 01:06 PM
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"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
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In article <IZCAg.212935$mF2.15395@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "B. Peg" <bent_peg@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Quote:
I do not understand how your Prius can get such good of mileage. I'm in the same hot environment in the So. Cal Central Valley and I'm only getting 38 mpg now with AC running almost always.
I don't know why you're getting such low mileage. As I said, I tend to keep at 65 on the freeway; most of the rural driving is at 45 to 50, and in the city it's 25-35. The lowest I've ever had was 42 MPG, and that was on my first tank.

My Prius got into a mode a while back (last summer) where it wouldn't charge
the battery and the engine ran continuously. Problem went away with a
re-start and then reappeared a few days later. It was hot when it happened
and the A/C had pulled the battery down. Hasn't happened since the last
recall upgrade but I have no reason to believe that upgrade solved the
problem. Read about an identical situation in the Prius_2G group a few days
ago.


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