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Old 08-23-2006, 12:55 PM
Phrederick Phrederick is offline
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update
has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the
miles per gallon. I thought I had lost some miles per gallon to the hot
weather until I heard this. Anyone have any support for this?

Note to Toyota, I bought this vehicle because it looked like a good
technological compromise to achieve higher mileage. You've released the
Hybrid Highlander, the GX400h, and the Hybrid Camry with minuscule
improvements in the mpg versus their gasoline only counterparts. I
think you're missing a significant market if this rumor is true and you
continue releasing vehicles with only minor mileage improvements.
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Old 08-23-2006, 01:28 PM
Russ Greene Russ Greene is offline
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"NeoPhyte_Rep" <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the miles per gallon. I thought I had lost some miles per gallon to the hot weather until I heard this. Anyone have any support for this? Note to Toyota, I bought this vehicle because it looked like a good technological compromise to achieve higher mileage. You've released the Hybrid Highlander, the GX400h, and the Hybrid Camry with minuscule improvements in the mpg versus their gasoline only counterparts. I think you're missing a significant market if this rumor is true and you continue releasing vehicles with only minor mileage improvements.


Not sure where you are getting your infomation, but both our cars are fully
updated and they are doing equal or better than the last time they were
serviced. The older of the 2 averaged 58+ mpg on a trip from MA to NC and
back.

Second, it's not only about the MPG's but about greatly reduced emissions
from the hybrid synergy drive as well that makes the hybrid version a
'better' car than the gas-only version.


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Old 08-23-2006, 02:33 PM
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"NeoPhyte_Rep" <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the miles per gallon. I thought I had lost some miles per gallon to the hot weather until I heard this. Anyone have any support for this?

I didn't see any change in my fuel economy.
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Note to Toyota, I bought this vehicle because it looked like a good technological compromise to achieve higher mileage. You've released the Hybrid Highlander, the GX400h, and the Hybrid Camry with minuscule improvements in the mpg versus their gasoline only counterparts. I think you're missing a significant market if this rumor is true and you continue releasing vehicles with only minor mileage improvements.


I call them feel-good-hybrids. They are essentially meaningless as far as
conservation is concerned. I heard GM as some truly phony hybrids.


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Old 08-23-2006, 09:28 PM
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the miles per gallon.


Where did you hear that rumor?!


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Old 08-24-2006, 05:40 AM
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Carpe Diem wrote:
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the miles per gallon.
Where did you hear that rumor?!

From another owner who had his service performed about the same time I
did and also had his mpg drop noticeably. That's why I came here, to
see if it was only a small sample or a more widespread occurrence.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:42 AM
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"NeoPhyte_Rep" <abuse@127.0.0.1> schreef in bericht
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Carpe Diem wrote:
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the miles per gallon.
Where did you hear that rumor?!
From another owner who had his service performed about the same time I did and also had his mpg drop noticeably. That's why I came here, to see if it was only a small sample or a more widespread occurrence.


To me, "growing rumour" seems to be an overstatement.


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Old 08-24-2006, 08:44 AM
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"NeoPhyte_Rep" <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Carpe Diem wrote:
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There's a growing rumor that the last Engine Control Unit program update has caused the engine to operate more frequently, thus lowering the miles per gallon.
Where did you hear that rumor?!
From another owner who had his service performed about the same time I did and also had his mpg drop noticeably. That's why I came here, to see if it was only a small sample or a more widespread occurrence.


After the ECU update, performed in conjunction with my 10K service, I too
thought my mileage had been impacted, possibly because I had read this rumor
in the Yahoo group. I checked my tire pressure to find they had seriously
lowered it (low to mid 30's) in conjunction with the tire rotation. I put
it back to 42/40. Over the next few tanks my mileage was as expected given
the nature of the trips, wind conditions, etc.

I can't honestly attribute my initial and subsequent findings to the ECU
update, tire pressure or paranoia arising out of the rumor but I suspect the
latter.



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