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Old 09-20-2006, 04:50 PM
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hi again folks,

our RX300 has a bad pulse on the front right wheel. last summer i
turned the rotor and the pulse disappeared for a few months, but now
its back! what is recommended? A new rotor, or a new hub?

Thank you
Tom

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Old 09-20-2006, 07:57 PM
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Have the rotor resurfaced, can do this usually for like $20 a rotor. If
it comes back again, then replace the rotor.


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Old 09-20-2006, 08:10 PM
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"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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hi again folks, our RX300 has a bad pulse on the front right wheel. last summer i turned the rotor and the pulse disappeared for a few months, but now its back! what is recommended? A new rotor, or a new hub? Thank you Tom


In my experience, brake rotors that have been turned to eliminate brake
pulsation will usually cause pulsation a short time later.

Check the rotor runout - if it is not true, then I recommend replacing both
front rotors instead of machining them.

Also, check the caliper slides to make sure they are not stuck, and use a
torque wrench to tighten lug nuts to approx. 75 ft-lbs.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:51 PM
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Ray,

Again, thanks, excellent advice. Actually I had previous vehicles
that had brakes that stuck, so i filed the groove out a little better
and never had the problem recur.

Tom



On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:10:43 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:i2o3h25f6opukq798c6i6jtqarsi20pgg8@4ax .com...
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hi again folks, our RX300 has a bad pulse on the front right wheel. last summer i turned the rotor and the pulse disappeared for a few months, but now its back! what is recommended? A new rotor, or a new hub? Thank you Tom
In my experience, brake rotors that have been turned to eliminate brakepulsation will usually cause pulsation a short time later.Check the rotor runout - if it is not true, then I recommend replacing bothfront rotors instead of machining them.Also, check the caliper slides to make sure they are not stuck, and use atorque wrench to tighten lug nuts to approx. 75 ft-lbs.


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Old 09-22-2006, 05:01 PM
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"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ray, Again, thanks, excellent advice. Actually I had previous vehicles that had brakes that stuck, so i filed the groove out a little better and never had the problem recur. Tom


Tom,

The caliper slides are the sleeves that the bolts that hold the caliper body
in place pass through. The bolts should be shiny clean and lubed with
either caliper grease, wheel bearing grease, or anti-seize. The bolts pass
through sleeves in the caliper body, and you should be able to push the
sleeves in and out of both sides of the caliper body up to the limit of the
rubber boots that hold the sleeves in place. People often clean up the
bolts but forget the sleeves. If the sleeves do not move freely, carefully
pull back the boots and see if you can use a dowl to push them out and get
the inner and outer diameter cleaned up and lubed with the same stuff you
use on the bolts.

The keyway that the square tabs on the pads sit in should also be clean - I
use a wire brush in a Dremel tool to clean up the keyway. The danger of
using a file to enlarge the keyway is that you can get a clicking or
knocking noise when you apply the brakes or when you change direction and
apply the brakes. While it is not dangerous, it is annoying, and the tab on
the pads can jam in the keyway and eventually cause a pulsation. I have
seen this problem with some aftermarket pads, which is one more reason I
always recommend OEM brake parts.

I know that people often use aftermarket parts because they perceive them to
be of similar or equal quality to OEM parts for less money, but in my
experience, the way that aftermarket parts fit and perform is hit-or-miss -
an aftermarket brand can be great on some applications and terrible in
another, so if Acme widgets worked great in your Corolla, they may not be so
great in your Camry. I sometimes use aftermarket parts, but stick to OEM
for brake parts, ignition parts, and oil filters.
--

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Quote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:10:43 -0500, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
Quote:
"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:i2o3h25f6opukq798c6i6jtqarsi20pgg8@4ax .com...
Quote:
hi again folks, our RX300 has a bad pulse on the front right wheel. last summer i turned the rotor and the pulse disappeared for a few months, but now its back! what is recommended? A new rotor, or a new hub? Thank you Tom
In my experience, brake rotors that have been turned to eliminate brakepulsation will usually cause pulsation a short time later.Check the rotor runout - if it is not true, then I recommend replacingbothfront rotors instead of machining them.Also, check the caliper slides to make sure they are not stuck, and use atorque wrench to tighten lug nuts to approx. 75 ft-lbs.



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Old 09-25-2006, 06:33 PM
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I read you on this one Ray.

Thanks.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:01:47 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
Quote:
"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:rt09h2l4unb4fspovpehb6mjik47drrvu2@4ax .com...
Quote:
Ray, Again, thanks, excellent advice. Actually I had previous vehicles that had brakes that stuck, so i filed the groove out a little better and never had the problem recur. Tom
Tom,The caliper slides are the sleeves that the bolts that hold the caliper bodyin place pass through. The bolts should be shiny clean and lubed witheither caliper grease, wheel bearing grease, or anti-seize. The bolts passthrough sleeves in the caliper body, and you should be able to push thesleeves in and out of both sides of the caliper body up to the limit of therubber boots that hold the sleeves in place. People often clean up thebolts but forget the sleeves. If the sleeves do not move freely, carefullypull back the boots and see if you can use a dowl to push them out and getthe inner and outer diameter cleaned up and lubed with the same stuff youuse on the bolts.The keyway that the square tabs on the pads sit in should also be clean - Iuse a wire brush in a Dremel tool to clean up the keyway. The danger ofusing a file to enlarge the keyway is that you can get a clicking orknocking noise when you apply the brakes or when you change direction andapply the brakes. While it is not dangerous, it is annoying, and the tab onthe pads can jam in the keyway and eventually cause a pulsation. I haveseen this problem with some aftermarket pads, which is one more reason Ialways recommend OEM brake parts.I know that people often use aftermarket parts because they perceive them tobe of similar or equal quality to OEM parts for less money, but in myexperience, the way that aftermarket parts fit and perform is hit-or-miss -an aftermarket brand can be great on some applications and terrible inanother, so if Acme widgets worked great in your Corolla, they may not be sogreat in your Camry. I sometimes use aftermarket parts, but stick to OEMfor brake parts, ignition parts, and oil filters.


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Old 09-25-2006, 08:03 PM
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"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I read you on this one Ray. Thanks.


You're welcome, and good luck with the diagnosis and fix!
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Quote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:01:47 -0500, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
Quote:
"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:rt09h2l4unb4fspovpehb6mjik47drrvu2@4ax .com...
Quote:
Ray, Again, thanks, excellent advice. Actually I had previous vehicles that had brakes that stuck, so i filed the groove out a little better and never had the problem recur. Tom
Tom,The caliper slides are the sleeves that the bolts that hold the caliperbodyin place pass through. The bolts should be shiny clean and lubed witheither caliper grease, wheel bearing grease, or anti-seize. The boltspassthrough sleeves in the caliper body, and you should be able to push thesleeves in and out of both sides of the caliper body up to the limit oftherubber boots that hold the sleeves in place. People often clean up thebolts but forget the sleeves. If the sleeves do not move freely,carefullypull back the boots and see if you can use a dowl to push them out and getthe inner and outer diameter cleaned up and lubed with the same stuff youuse on the bolts.The keyway that the square tabs on the pads sit in should also be clean -Iuse a wire brush in a Dremel tool to clean up the keyway. The danger ofusing a file to enlarge the keyway is that you can get a clicking orknocking noise when you apply the brakes or when you change direction andapply the brakes. While it is not dangerous, it is annoying, and the tabonthe pads can jam in the keyway and eventually cause a pulsation. I haveseen this problem with some aftermarket pads, which is one more reason Ialways recommend OEM brake parts.I know that people often use aftermarket parts because they perceive themtobe of similar or equal quality to OEM parts for less money, but in myexperience, the way that aftermarket parts fit and perform ishit-or-miss -an aftermarket brand can be great on some applications and terrible inanother, so if Acme widgets worked great in your Corolla, they may not besogreat in your Camry. I sometimes use aftermarket parts, but stick to OEMfor brake parts, ignition parts, and oil filters.



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