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Old 10-02-2006, 06:34 PM
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Default Synthetic blend oil, Motorcraft batt'ry



'owdy,

94 Tbird LX V8, 63k mi.

Ye trusty Ford dealer runs a "sale".

I've always used conventional oil. Currently has 3k mi. on it and
is a tad dirty looking.

"Motorcraft Oil/Filter change, premium synthetic blend - $22"

This is maybe $3 more than reg. oil. Recommend?

Battery is 6-7 years old. I figger it's 50/50 it'll fail a
load test and/or fail to make it thru the winter.

"Motorcraft Tough Plus Battery 84 month - $67"

Is a good buy? Anybody know who makes these things
nowadays??

Thanks,
Puddin'

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Old 10-02-2006, 07:10 PM
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Default Synthetic blend oil, Motorcraft batt'ry

Premium synthetic blend oil upside reduces wear on engine parts. Downside
some engine parts wear unevenly causing premature failure. I have always had
a problem with hydraulic lifter prematurely failing after years of use with
premium synthetic blend oils. I guess a small price to pay for reduced wear
esle where in the engine.
Batteries are one thing people never think about until they go bad. The age
of a battery dose not matter as long as the acid in it is good it will keep
going. Buy a battery hydrometer. This is a device for measuring the specific
gravity, aka. the strength of the battery acid. The specific gravity of a
new battery should be 1.300+. Two years old battery, the specific gravity
may be around 1.150 - 1.200. One in poor condition that is about to fail may
be as low as 1.100. Measure the battery voltage. It should measure
approximately 12.7 volts. You should check your battery every 30 days.

I hope this is helpful

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'owdy, 94 Tbird LX V8, 63k mi. Ye trusty Ford dealer runs a "sale". I've always used conventional oil. Currently has 3k mi. on it and is a tad dirty looking. "Motorcraft Oil/Filter change, premium synthetic blend - $22" This is maybe $3 more than reg. oil. Recommend? Battery is 6-7 years old. I figger it's 50/50 it'll fail a load test and/or fail to make it thru the winter. "Motorcraft Tough Plus Battery 84 month - $67" Is a good buy? Anybody know who makes these things nowadays?? Thanks, Puddin' Pease pudding hot, Pease pudding cold, Pease pudding in the pot Nine days old.



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Old 10-02-2006, 07:34 PM
Backyard Mechanic Backyard Mechanic is offline
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"Doc" <kf@be.net> wrote:
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Premium synthetic blend oil upside reduces wear on engine parts. Downside some engine parts wear unevenly causing premature failure. I have always had a problem with hydraulic lifter prematurely failing after years of use with premium synthetic blend oils.


That's a new one.

I dont know about Motorcraft Oil.. but I've had many over 100KMile
beaters that I run Mobil 1 in, and NEVER have lifter/adjustor tick. Even
if it started out with one.

Son was taking his car into a 'Quick Lube' Featuring that famous oil,
for his oil changes and had severe tick, more like clacking... he changed
to Mobil 1 and 3000 miles later it's quiet.

As far as the battery goes, Ive had a few last less than 3 years, but
none lasted more than 6.

It's just common sense. If you have the money, now, might be better than
later when you might not. But I've always had great luck with batteries
from WalMart or KMart. NOT so, with the 'Famous Brand'






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Old 10-02-2006, 09:32 PM
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Default Synthetic blend oil, Motorcraft batt'ry

Motorcraft's current regular motor oil is marketed as a synthetic blend.
The latest SM/GF-4 oil standard are often met by using some synthetic
oil as a portion of the base oil package. The Conoco-Phillips
manufactured oils use this approach and they figured they might as well
market it as such. You can buy them with Motorcraft, 76, Phillips-66,
Conoco or Kendall on the label ... all pretty much the same oil. Here
is their news release from 2004 when the change was made:

http://www.conocophillips.com/newsr...4_synthetic.htm

They don't mention Motorcraft oils because Ford markets those itself and
keeps it semi-secret where they get the stuff from.

So your dealer is just advertising an oil change with the current Ford
supplied motor oil. It is good stuff, but nothing extraordinary.

John
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:35 PM
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At least one website lists Johnson Controls as the supplier of
Motorcraft batteries:

http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/batbrand.htm#M

Johnson Controls Inc. [Sears' DieHard, Auto Zone's Duralast, Wal-Mart's
EverStart, Motorcraft, Optima, etc.], (US)
http://www.autobatteries.com/selector/index.asp


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Old 10-03-2006, 06:20 AM
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So they sling maybe .5% synthetic in with the reg. oil and
<Voila!> it becomes "Synthetic Blend". Hah!! I shoulda
figgered.

Thanks,
P

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:32:00 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
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Motorcraft's current regular motor oil is marketed as a synthetic blend. The latest SM/GF-4 oil standard are often met by using some syntheticoil as a portion of the base oil package. The Conoco-Phillipsmanufactured oils use this approach and they figured they might as wellmarket it as such. You can buy them with Motorcraft, 76, Phillips-66,Conoco or Kendall on the label ... all pretty much the same oil. Hereis their news release from 2004 when the change was made:http://www.conocophillips.com/newsr...4_synthetic.htmThey don't mention Motorcraft oils because Ford markets those itself andkeeps it semi-secret where they get the stuff from.So your dealer is just advertising an oil change with the current Fordsupplied motor oil. It is good stuff, but nothing extraordinary.John


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Old 10-03-2006, 06:30 AM
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:35:58 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
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At least one website lists Johnson Controls as the supplier ofMotorcraft batteries:http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/batbrand.htm#MJohnson Controls Inc. [Sears' DieHard, Auto Zone's Duralast, Wal-Mart'sEverStart, Motorcraft, Optima, etc.], (US)http://www.autobatteries.com/selector/index.asp


Better'n Exide, from what I've heard.

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P

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Old 10-03-2006, 03:46 PM
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"Puddin' Man" <pudding.man@gmail.com> wrote in message
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'owdy, 94 Tbird LX V8, 63k mi. Ye trusty Ford dealer runs a "sale". I've always used conventional oil. Currently has 3k mi. on it and is a tad dirty looking. "Motorcraft Oil/Filter change, premium synthetic blend - $22" This is maybe $3 more than reg. oil. Recommend?


A synthetic blend means that the oil is a blend of conventional oil and
synthetic oil (as opposed to pure synthetic oil, like Mobil 1).

I would recommend Mobil 1 over this, but this should be fine.

Quote:
Battery is 6-7 years old. I figger it's 50/50 it'll fail a load test and/or fail to make it thru the winter. "Motorcraft Tough Plus Battery 84 month - $67" Is a good buy? Anybody know who makes these things nowadays??


Sounds like a reasonable price.

The prices are reasonable. I would do them (except, the part about going all
synthetic, but the blend should be fine).

Jeff
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:48 PM
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Premium synthetic blend oil upside reduces wear on engine parts. Downside some engine parts wear unevenly causing premature failure. I have always had a problem with hydraulic lifter prematurely failing after years of use with premium synthetic blend oils. I guess a small price to pay for reduced wear esle where in the engine. Batteries are one thing people never think about until they go bad. The age of a battery dose not matter as long as the acid in it is good it will keep going. Buy a battery hydrometer. This is a device for measuring the specific gravity, aka. the strength of the battery acid. The specific gravity of a new battery should be 1.300+. Two years old battery, the specific gravity may be around 1.150 - 1.200. One in poor condition that is about to fail may be as low as 1.100. Measure the battery voltage. It should measure approximately 12.7 volts. You should check your battery every 30 days. I hope this is helpful


The plates can break and other things can go wrong than just the electrolyte
level.

Jeff
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'owdy, 94 Tbird LX V8, 63k mi. Ye trusty Ford dealer runs a "sale". I've always used conventional oil. Currently has 3k mi. on it and is a tad dirty looking. "Motorcraft Oil/Filter change, premium synthetic blend - $22" This is maybe $3 more than reg. oil. Recommend? Battery is 6-7 years old. I figger it's 50/50 it'll fail a load test and/or fail to make it thru the winter. "Motorcraft Tough Plus Battery 84 month - $67" Is a good buy? Anybody know who makes these things nowadays?? Thanks, Puddin' Pease pudding hot, Pease pudding cold, Pease pudding in the pot Nine days old.



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Old 10-08-2006, 11:27 PM
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Default Synthetic blend oil, Motorcraft batt'ry

Oil... I run WalMart's Tech 2000 full synthetic. Cheap as potatos and on the
label it's got the API stamp and says that it meets all the requirements for
the new Vette. Seems to work very well in my 5.0 GT. Did I mention it was
cheap?

Brad

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'owdy, 94 Tbird LX V8, 63k mi. Ye trusty Ford dealer runs a "sale". I've always used conventional oil. Currently has 3k mi. on it and is a tad dirty looking. "Motorcraft Oil/Filter change, premium synthetic blend - $22" This is maybe $3 more than reg. oil. Recommend? Battery is 6-7 years old. I figger it's 50/50 it'll fail a load test and/or fail to make it thru the winter. "Motorcraft Tough Plus Battery 84 month - $67" Is a good buy? Anybody know who makes these things nowadays?? Thanks, Puddin' Pease pudding hot, Pease pudding cold, Pease pudding in the pot Nine days old.



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