10-04-2006, 10:36 AM
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:47:49 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:24:55 -0400, "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote: > > There are some newsservers that put up with a lot more crap than > others, such as giganews (Called the troll's server). But your > major companies have a much lower threshold for that crap. Giganews actually is the major company when it comes to Usenet. :-)
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What about Google Groups?
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Google used to be "Deja News" (AKA Deja Snooze, cuz it's so slow), but it'sa major company.
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It was never designed to be a newsreading service. It was just a
Usenet archive.
Google has been repurposing it as part of their plan to have all the
world use Google. They are working toward your never leaving Google's
site, no matter what you're using your computer for. :-)
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10-04-2006, 01:01 PM
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"Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:47:49 -0400, "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Stuart Krivis, 10/4/2006, 9:14:42 AM, <tac7i29lop0mgnb9fd9gagu1vt4ordfldb@4ax.com> wrote:> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:24:55 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"> <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:>> >> > There are some newsservers that put up with a lot more crap than> > others, such as giganews (Called the troll's server). But your> > major companies have a much lower threshold for that crap.>> Giganews actually is the major company when it comes to Usenet. :-) What about Google Groups?
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Google used to be "Deja News" (AKA Deja Snooze, cuz it's so slow), butit'sa major company.
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It was never designed to be a newsreading service. It was just a Usenet archive. Google has been repurposing it as part of their plan to have all the world use Google. They are working toward your never leaving Google's site, no matter what you're using your computer for. :-)
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Web-based news reading has never impressed me. People rag on OE's news
reader all the time, but I'd rather have to set it up and plug a server into
it, than to deal with Google, etc.
I used Agent for a while, but even that wasn't as good for reading, IMO.
Natalie
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10-04-2006, 02:31 PM
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"Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
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Stuart Krivis, 10/4/2006, 9:14:42 AM, <tac7i29lop0mgnb9fd9gagu1vt4ordfldb@4ax.com> wrote:> On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:24:55 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"> <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:>> >> > There are some newsservers that put up with a lot more crap than> > others, such as giganews (Called the troll's server). But your> > major companies have a much lower threshold for that crap.>> Giganews actually is the major company when it comes to Usenet. :-) What about Google Groups?
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Google used to be "Deja News" (AKA Deja Snooze, cuz it's so slow), butit'sa major company.
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It was never designed to be a newsreading service. It was just a Usenet archive. Google has been repurposing it as part of their plan to have all the world use Google. They are working toward your never leaving Google's site, no matter what you're using your computer for. :-)
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In which case, they're going to have to work a LOT harder to get more people
to use Google Groups to read & post on a regular basis. It's klutzy & a
PITA to use, IMO. I've used it only as a last-ditch deal when my usual news
server's been 'down', or if I'm in transition between PC's & OE hasn't been
configured correctly yet. Which, thank goodness, hasn't been often. People
crab about Outlook Express (not me, I like it fine), but it is *much* easier
& more efficient than reading/posting via Google Groups.
Cathy
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10-05-2006, 08:46 AM
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:01:13 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
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Web-based news reading has never impressed me. People rag on OE's newsreader all the time, but I'd rather have to set it up and plug a server intoit, than to deal with Google, etc.
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Web-based news isn't so great in my opinion either. :-)
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I used Agent for a while, but even that wasn't as good for reading, IMO.
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I've been using Agent for over a decade. I guess I'm just used to it.
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10-05-2006, 08:48 AM
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 18:31:04 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
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configured correctly yet. Which, thank goodness, hasn't been often. Peoplecrab about Outlook Express (not me, I like it fine), but it is *much* easier& more efficient than reading/posting via Google Groups.
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I won't use Outlook Express because of its history of security holes.
I won't use IE for the same reason.
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10-05-2006, 05:47 PM
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Web-based news reading has never impressed me. People rag on OE's newsreader all the time, but I'd rather have to set it up and plug a serverintoit, than to deal with Google, etc.
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Web-based news isn't so great in my opinion either. :-)
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I used Agent for a while, but even that wasn't as good for reading, IMO.
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I've been using Agent for over a decade. I guess I'm just used to it. :-)
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It didn't suck, but I like OE better
Natalie
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10-05-2006, 05:48 PM
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configured correctly yet. Which, thank goodness, hasn't been often.Peoplecrab about Outlook Express (not me, I like it fine), but it is *much*easier& more efficient than reading/posting via Google Groups.
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I won't use Outlook Express because of its history of security holes. I won't use IE for the same reason.
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*knock-knock* it's okay if you do your settings right.
Natalie
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10-05-2006, 05:52 PM
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:01:13 -0400, "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Web-based news reading has never impressed me. People rag on OE's newsreader all the time, but I'd rather have to set it up and plug a serverintoit, than to deal with Google, etc.
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Web-based news isn't so great in my opinion either. :-)
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I used Agent for a while, but even that wasn't as good for reading, IMO.
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I've been using Agent for over a decade. I guess I'm just used to it. :-)
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It didn't suck, but I like OE better Natalie
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I looked into Agent after hearing accolades about it, but didn't like its
format. Stuck w/OE.
Cathy
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10-07-2006, 02:06 PM
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 21:48:36 -0400, "WickeddollŽ"
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 18:31:04 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
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configured correctly yet. Which, thank goodness, hasn't been often.Peoplecrab about Outlook Express (not me, I like it fine), but it is *much*easier& more efficient than reading/posting via Google Groups.
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I won't use Outlook Express because of its history of security holes. I won't use IE for the same reason.
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*knock-knock* it's okay if you do your settings right.
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No, it really isn't. There are some basic flaws in much of MS's
software that changing your settings won't help. IE is worse than OE,
but OE uses the IE engine for rendering, so an IE flaw can even bring
down someone who only uses OE.
The first thing I recommend to people is to switch from OE and IE to
Thunderbird and Firefox. They're designed a bit better and their
security record is better by far.
Vista may solve the problem, if it ever gets here, and if they
actually did things the right way. (I haven't tried it yet; I'm just
going by their descriptions of what they're doing to tighten
security.)
If you really want to avoid problems with viruses, spyware, identity
theft, trojans, etc. then you should buy a Mac. :-)
Linux is another alternative, and is also more secure in general than
Windows is.
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10-07-2006, 02:34 PM
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"Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 18:31:04 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote:>configured correctly yet. Which, thank goodness, hasn't been often.>People>crab about Outlook Express (not me, I like it fine), but it is *much*>easier>& more efficient than reading/posting via Google Groups. I won't use Outlook Express because of its history of security holes. I won't use IE for the same reason.
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*knock-knock* it's okay if you do your settings right.
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No, it really isn't. There are some basic flaws in much of MS's software that changing your settings won't help. IE is worse than OE, but OE uses the IE engine for rendering, so an IE flaw can even bring down someone who only uses OE. The first thing I recommend to people is to switch from OE and IE to Thunderbird and Firefox. They're designed a bit better and their security record is better by far. Vista may solve the problem, if it ever gets here, and if they actually did things the right way. (I haven't tried it yet; I'm just going by their descriptions of what they're doing to tighten security.) If you really want to avoid problems with viruses, spyware, identity theft, trojans, etc. then you should buy a Mac. :-)
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Until enough people buy into this argument & switch over, thus also making
Macs likely targets for the writers of viruses, worms, etc...
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Linux is another alternative, and is also more secure in general than Windows is.
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Unless a person has minimal technical skills & knoweledge, & therefore has
no clue (moi, par example) what on earth Linux is... And has no desire to
find out (KISS motto works fine for me!).
Cathy
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