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Old 10-04-2006, 10:49 AM
Ederlezi Ederlezi is offline
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Default Inflation pressure for new NITROGEN filled tires

Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending
extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation on
inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or go
up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life
or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated
rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
advance, -Sveta


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Old 10-04-2006, 11:37 AM
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation on inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or go up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in advance, -Sveta


I would go 2-4 PSI higher that specified by the Camry User manual. Most
auto-service places (including some dealers) set the pressure way too high.
I use about 33 PSI when the tires are already warm (which is about 30-31
cold tire pressure) for my 98 XLE V6 using Michelin Pilot 92H tires. The
above cold tire pressure numbers assume that the ambient temp is about 70
degrees.


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Old 10-04-2006, 04:01 PM
William W. Plummer William W. Plummer is offline
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Default Inflation pressure for new NITROGEN filled tires

Why does anyone want to use pure nitrogen in his tires? I use 80% N2
and 20% O2 and it works fine.


S. Petkovic wrote:
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Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation on inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or go up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in advance, -Sveta

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Old 10-04-2006, 04:23 PM
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I think it was Stubby <William.Plummer-NOSPAM-@alum.mit.edu> who
stated:
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Why does anyone want to use pure nitrogen in his tires? I use 80% N2and 20% O2 and it works fine.


But that's not really the best idea either.

Me? I like to have some other gasses too; I prefer this mixture in my
tires:

Nitrogen N2 78.084 %
Oxygen O2 20.9476 %
Argon Ar 0.934 %
Carbon Dioxide CO2 0.0314 %
Neon Ne 0.001818 %
Helium He 0.000524 %
Methane CH4 0.0002 %
Krypton Kr 0.000114 %
Hydrogen H2 0.00005 %
Xenon Xe 0.0000087 %

That's the brew *I* use!

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Old 10-04-2006, 04:25 PM
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"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. I would go 2-4 PSI higher that specified by the Camry User manual. Most auto-service places (including some dealers) set the pressure way too

high.
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I use about 33 PSI when the tires are already warm (which is about 30-31 cold tire pressure) for my 98 XLE V6 using Michelin Pilot 92H tires. The above cold tire pressure numbers assume that the ambient temp is about 70 degrees.


Thanks,
What you're saying makes sense, I will do the same.


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Old 10-04-2006, 04:27 PM
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The link below has a pretty good discussion of the subject of nitrogen
in tires:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread....d=120996&page=1


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Old 10-08-2006, 03:33 AM
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
Quote:
Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of

spending
Quote:
extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation

on
Quote:
inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or

go
Quote:
up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread

life
Quote:
or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V

rated
Quote:
rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in advance, -Sveta


what do you do when you need the tires lose pressure? can you mix air and
nitro? if so what are the benefits of having nitro? eventually all tires
need added pressure so do you go to someone who uses nitro or can you get a
tank ful and keep it in your garage?

mike............


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Old 10-10-2006, 06:44 PM
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"JerseyMike" <clamdigger724@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
Quote:
Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of
spending
Quote:
extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for

recommendation
Quote:
on
Quote:
inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation,

or
Quote:
go
Quote:
up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread
life
Quote:
or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V
rated
Quote:
rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in advance, -Sveta
what do you do when you need the tires lose pressure? can you mix air and nitro? if so what are the benefits of having nitro? eventually all tires need added pressure so do you go to someone who uses nitro or can you get

a
Quote:
tank ful and keep it in your garage? mike............

I will ask shop to check/add nitro when I have my oil/filter change.
Otherwise, adding coulple of lbs/sq"
regular compressed air would be rather small procentage of total volume so
it would not change
things too much. It would be nice if they started marketing compressed nitro
in cans like those of tire
repair/inflator so one can keep it ready in trunk.
-sveta


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Old 10-11-2006, 04:00 AM
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
"JerseyMike" <clamdigger724@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:zm5Wg.221770$QM6.45317@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Quote:
"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
Quote:
Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto

All-Season
Quote:
205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for

wheel
Quote:
alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending
Quote:
extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for
recommendation
Quote:
on
Quote:
inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation,
or
Quote:
go
Quote:
up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a

bit
Quote:
higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life
Quote:
or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V
rated
Quote:
rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in advance, -Sveta
what do you do when you need the tires lose pressure? can you mix air

and
Quote:
nitro? if so what are the benefits of having nitro? eventually all

tires
Quote:
need added pressure so do you go to someone who uses nitro or can you

get
Quote:
a
Quote:
tank ful and keep it in your garage? mike............
I will ask shop to check/add nitro when I have my oil/filter change. Otherwise, adding coulple of lbs/sq" regular compressed air would be rather small procentage of total volume so it would not change things too much. It would be nice if they started marketing compressed

nitro
Quote:
in cans like those of tire repair/inflator so one can keep it ready in trunk. -sveta


it seems like a hassle more than a bonus to me, but here's another silly
question. say you get a flat tire and need to use the spare that is factory
filled w/ air, does it affect the handling or ride of the car?


mike.......


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Old 10-11-2006, 01:44 PM
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"JerseyMike" <clamdigger724@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message news:PIWdnc3C_6eDxrHYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
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"JerseyMike" <clamdigger724@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:zm5Wg.221770$QM6.45317@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Quote:
"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto
All-Season
Quote:
> 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for
wheel
Quote:
> alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending > extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation
Quote:
on > inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory > recommendation,
or
Quote:
go > up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a
bit
Quote:
> higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize > thread life > or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for > left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated > rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks > in > advance, -Sveta > > what do you do when you need the tires lose pressure? can you mix air
and
Quote:
nitro? if so what are the benefits of having nitro? eventually all
tires
Quote:
need added pressure so do you go to someone who uses nitro or can you
get
Quote:
a
Quote:
tank ful and keep it in your garage? mike............
I will ask shop to check/add nitro when I have my oil/filter change. Otherwise, adding coulple of lbs/sq" regular compressed air would be rather small procentage of total volume so it would not change things too much. It would be nice if they started marketing compressed
nitro
Quote:
in cans like those of tire repair/inflator so one can keep it ready in trunk. -sveta
it seems like a hassle more than a bonus to me, but here's another silly question. say you get a flat tire and need to use the spare that is factory filled w/ air, does it affect the handling or ride of the car? mike.......


And yet another silly question- Do they evacuate all the air out of the
tire after mounting it, then add nitrogen?? I'm not even sure it would even
be possible without unseating the bead. I guess you could put the whole
wheel and tire assembly into a vacuum chamber....

Paul


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