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Old 10-09-2006, 06:09 AM
Wayne Moses Wayne Moses is offline
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Default Tiburon has slight lean to the right

Hello All

For some time now I have noticed a definite lean to the right (right side
lower than left side) in my 2005 Tiburon GT.

Yesterday I took some measurements (again) and some photos to take to the
dealer.

Measuring from the ground to the top of the wheel arch I get a difference
of slightly more than 1/2 inch measured at both axles. This may not sound
like much but on my level garage floor the difference is quite visible. Not
only that but the rear of the car sits a little lower than the front
although l am not so much concerned about that.

The car only has 13 500 miles or thereabouts and as far as l can tell the
suspension is in good order. I do have a Progress sway bar at the rear but
that did not cause the lean which was there before the sway bar was
replaced.

Any ideas or similar experiences? Any Tib owners want to take some quick
measurements and report back here? Hyundaitech, what do you think?

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:46:11 -0500

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Old 10-09-2006, 11:48 AM
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Default Tiburon has slight lean to the right

In most cases, about 1/2 inch from side to side is considered normal.

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Old 10-09-2006, 08:43 PM
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Hello hyundaitech,

h> In most cases, about 1/2 inch from side to side is considered normal.

This is what i was afraid you would say. Here are some numbers I got today
(Track and Angle headers shifted over a bit) --

Unloaded

Left Right Difference Track Angle
Front 25.88 25.50 0.38 58.70 0.005 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires
Rear 25.88 25.25 0.63 58.70 0.009 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires

Front 25.88 25.50 0.38 58.70 0.005 Measured 10/8/2006, 31 psi in tires
Rear 25.81 25.25 0.56 58.70 0.008 Measured 10/8/2006, 31 psi in tires


Loaded

Left Right Difference Track Angle
Front 25.56 25.19 0.38 58.70 0.005 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires
Rear 25.44 25.16 0.28 58.70 0.004 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires
So even with almost 200 lb me in the driver's seat, there is still a lean
of more than 1/4" to the right.

Note how the front did not change at all but the back saw a reduction in
lean down to a little over 1/4".

Add to this, the fact that every so often I have moaning sound 2 - 3 times
from the right side (I want to say right rear) on the first right turn after
a long or overnight period parked. At first I thought it was the parking
brake but I doubt it, since the parking brake is not very tightly adjusted
(I easily get 4 clicks before it holds nicely on my sloped driveway). I took
it in to the dealership for a wheel rotation and balancing and asked them
to investigate as the wheels would be off. They saw no problem. Of course
since the car was just driven they could not replicate the noise either.

What do you think that moan could be, and why only after the car sat for
a while? I sounds a bit like a tire would make rubbing on a solid metal structure
-- not a scraping sound but a resonant moan. Since it only happens wehn I
turn right I figured it should be from the front, but the sound almost appears
to come from the RR.

Regards,
Wayne Moses


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Old 10-10-2006, 05:55 AM
Edwin Pawlowski Edwin Pawlowski is offline
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"Wayne Moses" <wmoses@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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For some time now I have noticed a definite lean to the right (right side lower than left side) in my 2005 Tiburon GT. Yesterday I took some measurements (again) and some photos to take to the dealer.


Stop buying the double cheeseburgers for your girlfriend?


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Old 10-10-2006, 01:25 PM
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Wayne Moses wrote:
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Hello hyundaitech, h> In most cases, about 1/2 inch from side to side is considered normal. This is what i was afraid you would say. Here are some numbers I got today (Track and Angle headers shifted over a bit) -- Unloaded Left Right Difference Track Angle Front 25.88 25.50 0.38 58.70 0.005 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires Rear 25.88 25.25 0.63 58.70 0.009 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires Front 25.88 25.50 0.38 58.70 0.005 Measured 10/8/2006, 31 psi in tires Rear 25.81 25.25 0.56 58.70 0.008 Measured 10/8/2006, 31 psi in tires Loaded Left Right Difference Track Angle Front 25.56 25.19 0.38 58.70 0.005 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires Rear 25.44 25.16 0.28 58.70 0.004 Measured 10/9/2006, 35 psi in tires So even with almost 200 lb me in the driver's seat, there is still a lean of more than 1/4" to the right. Note how the front did not change at all but the back saw a reduction in lean down to a little over 1/4".


That is a miniscule amount of difference. I wouldn't worry about it as
long as nothing appears broken in the suspension.

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Old 10-10-2006, 01:35 PM
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Hello Edwin,

EP> Stop buying the double cheeseburgers for your girlfriend?

Hahahaha .... I wonder if I should pass your suggestion onto my 'known-to-be-grumpy'
45+ year old wife. ;-)

Regards,
Wayne Moses


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Old 10-10-2006, 01:37 PM
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Hello Matt,

MW> That is a miniscule amount of difference. I wouldn't worry about it
MW> as long as nothing appears broken in the suspension.

On paper it does not seem like much, but I can see it, and that is what irritates
me. Thanks for the input though. :-)

Regards,
Wayne Moses


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Old 10-10-2006, 01:45 PM
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Wayne Moses wrote:
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Hello Matt, MW> That is a miniscule amount of difference. I wouldn't worry about it MW> as long as nothing appears broken in the suspension. On paper it does not seem like much, but I can see it, and that is what irritates me. Thanks for the input though. :-)


If you notice a quarter of an inch, you are looking way to hard for way
too long. :-)


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Old 10-11-2006, 06:19 AM
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"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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Wayne Moses wrote:
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Hello Matt, MW> That is a miniscule amount of difference. I wouldn't worry about it MW> as long as nothing appears broken in the suspension. On paper it does not seem like much, but I can see it, and that is what irritates me. Thanks for the input though. :-)
If you notice a quarter of an inch, you are looking way to hard for way too long. :-) Matt


OK, you got my curiosity up. I just went and measured my Sonata, a Ford
and a Lexus. Each one varied 1/4" on one side or the other. I could not
see the difference. This is one of those things I never thought about, but
I'm sure there is a normal tolerance of some sort. Anyone know what it
would be?


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Old 10-11-2006, 04:30 PM
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Default Tiburon has slight lean to the right

I'd be a little more interested in the moan than the lean. The GT
suspension bushings tend to wear from the beating of the stiff suspension.
But this doesn't particularly sound like that. Could be a strut, control
arm bushing, sway bar bushing, etc. Next time you take it to the dealer,
take it in during the day with the understanding they'll leave it alone
and check it the next morning.

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