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Old 10-10-2006, 05:04 AM
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First Oil Change for the Scion (By me, anyway)

Whoever did the last one used a Genuine Fram OF and tightened it to the
max! I did MUCH better; I used a Bosch! (Hey...dealers are closed on
Sundays!)

At any rate, in the Scion (if you look through the Tips and Easter Eggs I
posted) you can set the interval for the "Maintenance" light to start
flashing to tell you when to change the oil again. I set the reminder to,
I think (if I read it correctly) 3000 miles. It is set at the factory to
start flashing at 4,500 miles as a 'Reminder', and stays steady at 5,000,
the factory recommendation for oil changes.

So, I was wondering. If I set it to 4,000 miles, it should start flashing
at 3,500, which I think would be a good interval to change the oil. I
believe it had Synthetic in it before (the oil was a reddish brown, and
not black) and I put in Castrol Syntech at the recommended weight.

Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't
think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota
recommends 5,000 miles, eh?
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:24 AM
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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First Oil Change for the Scion (By me, anyway) Whoever did the last one used a Genuine Fram OF and tightened it to the max! I did MUCH better; I used a Bosch! (Hey...dealers are closed on Sundays!) At any rate, in the Scion (if you look through the Tips and Easter Eggs I posted) you can set the interval for the "Maintenance" light to start flashing to tell you when to change the oil again. I set the reminder to, I think (if I read it correctly) 3000 miles. It is set at the factory to start flashing at 4,500 miles as a 'Reminder', and stays steady at 5,000, the factory recommendation for oil changes. So, I was wondering. If I set it to 4,000 miles, it should start flashing at 3,500, which I think would be a good interval to change the oil. I believe it had Synthetic in it before (the oil was a reddish brown, and not black) and I put in Castrol Syntech at the recommended weight. Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota recommends 5,000 miles, eh?


500 miles, whether conventional or synthetic, will not make a difference.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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Old 10-10-2006, 09:29 AM
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:04:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don'tthink going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyotarecommends 5,000 miles, eh?


With short intervals like this between changes, and with normal
driving conditions, I don't think you'll see any difference other than
price between "dino" oil and "synthetic" oil.

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Old 10-10-2006, 09:52 AM
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:24:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:BTMWg.1872$HP.1623@trndny08...
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First Oil Change for the Scion (By me, anyway) Whoever did the last one used a Genuine Fram OF and tightened it to the max! I did MUCH better; I used a Bosch! (Hey...dealers are closed on Sundays!) At any rate, in the Scion (if you look through the Tips and Easter Eggs I posted) you can set the interval for the "Maintenance" light to start flashing to tell you when to change the oil again. I set the reminder to, I think (if I read it correctly) 3000 miles. It is set at the factory to start flashing at 4,500 miles as a 'Reminder', and stays steady at 5,000, the factory recommendation for oil changes. So, I was wondering. If I set it to 4,000 miles, it should start flashing at 3,500, which I think would be a good interval to change the oil. I believe it had Synthetic in it before (the oil was a reddish brown, and not black) and I put in Castrol Syntech at the recommended weight. Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota recommends 5,000 miles, eh?
500 miles, whether conventional or synthetic, will not make a difference.



Yeah, I know. I've had the 3,000 mile engrained in me since I was 17, but
then again, I have gone 4,000, 5,000 even 7,000 miles between changes
(Toyota's Recommndation USED to be 7,500 miles!) and still managed to rack
up over 250,000 on two Toyotas, and over 170,000 miles on another.

But, I'm suggesting diong this as de rigeur...

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Old 10-10-2006, 10:06 AM
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:52:10 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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Yeah, I know. I've had the 3,000 mile engrained in me since I was 17, butthen again, I have gone 4,000, 5,000 even 7,000 miles between changes(Toyota's Recommndation USED to be 7,500 miles!) and still managed to rackup over 250,000 on two Toyotas, and over 170,000 miles on another.But, I'm suggesting diong this as de rigeur...


I see that even Click and Clack are now recommending 5000 miles.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2005Mar26.html

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Old 10-10-2006, 11:33 AM
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Stuart Krivis wrote:
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:52:10 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, I know. I've had the 3,000 mile engrained in me since I was 17, but then again, I have gone 4,000, 5,000 even 7,000 miles between changes (Toyota's Recommndation USED to be 7,500 miles!) and still managed to rack up over 250,000 on two Toyotas, and over 170,000 miles on another. But, I'm suggesting diong this as de rigeur...
I see that even Click and Clack are now recommending 5000 miles. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2005Mar26.html


How long before they realise that the rest of the World are at 15000 miles
and are now moving rapidly to 20,000 and even 30,000 mile oil change
intervals.
Toyota has been at 10,000 miles here for around 10 years now. The trend
setters are GM/Vauxhall/Opel, VAG [volkswagonaudigroup] Mercedes and BMW.
All others are following as their technology allows.
I don't know of anyone that changes their oil at less than 5000 miles or one
year. Even back in the early 1980's VW/Audi had 10,000 mile intervals while
others had 12000 mile/1 year intervals, all on mineral oil. No problem.

Huw


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Old 10-10-2006, 12:56 PM
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:33:06 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Stuart Krivis wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:52:10 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, I know. I've had the 3,000 mile engrained in me since I was 17, but then again, I have gone 4,000, 5,000 even 7,000 miles between changes (Toyota's Recommndation USED to be 7,500 miles!) and still managed to rack up over 250,000 on two Toyotas, and over 170,000 miles on another. But, I'm suggesting diong this as de rigeur...
I see that even Click and Clack are now recommending 5000 miles. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2005Mar26.html
How long before they realise that the rest of the World are at 15000 milesand are now moving rapidly to 20,000 and even 30,000 mile oil changeintervals.Toyota has been at 10,000 miles here for around 10 years now. The trend


As they say in the article, usage patterns in the US are different, so
that may account for some of the difference. They also note that 7500
miles is Toyota's recommendation, but they err on the conservative
side and say 5000.

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:29:12 -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:04:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
Quote:
Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don'tthink going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyotarecommends 5,000 miles, eh?
With short intervals like this between changes, and with normal driving conditions, I don't think you'll see any difference other than price between "dino" oil and "synthetic" oil.



That's why I want to shove an extra 500 miles between changes!
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:26 PM
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:e18cf$452bbe80$44a4a10d$21536@msgid.meganewss ervers.com...
Quote:
"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:BTMWg.1872$HP.1623@trndny08...
Quote:
First Oil Change for the Scion (By me, anyway) Whoever did the last one used a Genuine Fram OF and tightened it to the max! I did MUCH better; I used a Bosch! (Hey...dealers are closed on Sundays!) At any rate, in the Scion (if you look through the Tips and Easter Eggs I posted) you can set the interval for the "Maintenance" light to start flashing to tell you when to change the oil again. I set the reminder to, I think (if I read it correctly) 3000 miles. It is set at the factory to start flashing at 4,500 miles as a 'Reminder', and stays steady at 5,000, the factory recommendation for oil changes. So, I was wondering. If I set it to 4,000 miles, it should start flashing at 3,500, which I think would be a good interval to change the oil. I believe it had Synthetic in it before (the oil was a reddish brown, and not black) and I put in Castrol Syntech at the recommended weight. Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota recommends 5,000 miles, eh?
500 miles, whether conventional or synthetic, will not make a difference. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This reminds me of an ancient story my late father used to tell. He worked
at
radio station WOC in Davenport, Iowa in the mid-1920s and there was a
fellow on the staff named Peter MacArthur, who walked with crutches.
He checked his oil and found it a quart low, so he dutifully put in a quart
(all of 30 or 35c
at the time) and immediately noticed that it had been 1020 miles since his
last oil change.
(for you younger readers, 1000 miles was the accepted time between changes,
and there
were likely no oil filters in those days of yore).
So poor Pete went directly to the gas station and had an oil change,
draining out and
throwing away his precious new quart of oil.

Now for the end of the story. One day Peter Macarthur noticed a job
applicant in
the office, and the young fellow was told there were no vacancies on the
staff, so he
left. Peter (on his crutches) went down the hall to the elevator where the
young man
was still waiting for the lift. He mentioned to him that while WOC had no
openings,
he had heard there was a spot open for a sportscaster on a Des Moines
station.
The young fellow thanked Pete and went on his way. Several days later, he
called
Pete to thank him again, saying he'd indeed gotten the job in Des Moines,
and would
be eternally grateful.
The young man was Ronald "Dutch" Reagan, and from then till the end of
Pete's life
he sent him a Christmas card each year with his thanks. And after Pete
died, Reagan sent
his widow a card each year as well. Whatever you may think of Reagan, he
did remember
kindnesses....forever.


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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:26:20 -0700, mack wrote:
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:e18cf$452bbe80$44a4a10d$21536@msgid.meganewss ervers.com...
Quote:
"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:BTMWg.1872$HP.1623@trndny08...
Quote:
First Oil Change for the Scion (By me, anyway) Whoever did the last one used a Genuine Fram OF and tightened it to the max! I did MUCH better; I used a Bosch! (Hey...dealers are closed on Sundays!) At any rate, in the Scion (if you look through the Tips and Easter Eggs I posted) you can set the interval for the "Maintenance" light to start flashing to tell you when to change the oil again. I set the reminder to, I think (if I read it correctly) 3000 miles. It is set at the factory to start flashing at 4,500 miles as a 'Reminder', and stays steady at 5,000, the factory recommendation for oil changes. So, I was wondering. If I set it to 4,000 miles, it should start flashing at 3,500, which I think would be a good interval to change the oil. I believe it had Synthetic in it before (the oil was a reddish brown, and not black) and I put in Castrol Syntech at the recommended weight. Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota recommends 5,000 miles, eh?
500 miles, whether conventional or synthetic, will not make a difference. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This reminds me of an ancient story my late father used to tell. He worked at radio station WOC in Davenport, Iowa in the mid-1920s and there was a fellow on the staff named Peter MacArthur, who walked with crutches. He checked his oil and found it a quart low, so he dutifully put in a quart (all of 30 or 35c at the time) and immediately noticed that it had been 1020 miles since his last oil change. (for you younger readers, 1000 miles was the accepted time between changes, and there were likely no oil filters in those days of yore). So poor Pete went directly to the gas station and had an oil change, draining out and throwing away his precious new quart of oil. Now for the end of the story. One day Peter Macarthur noticed a job applicant in the office, and the young fellow was told there were no vacancies on the staff, so he left. Peter (on his crutches) went down the hall to the elevator where the young man was still waiting for the lift. He mentioned to him that while WOC had no openings, he had heard there was a spot open for a sportscaster on a Des Moines station. The young fellow thanked Pete and went on his way. Several days later, he called Pete to thank him again, saying he'd indeed gotten the job in Des Moines, and would be eternally grateful. The young man was Ronald "Dutch" Reagan, and from then till the end of Pete's life he sent him a Christmas card each year with his thanks. And after Pete died, Reagan sent his widow a card each year as well. Whatever you may think of Reagan, he did remember kindnesses....forever.



Cool, Mac! Thanks!

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