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Old 12-23-2003, 04:33 PM
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Hope this is the right NG for this question. I've got a '93 Villager, and
recently went over the electrical system looking for something else, and
found there's only one light still working on the "light bar". It's no big
deal, as it's not a safety issue or anything, but I'd like to get them
working. I removed one (burned out) light, but can't figure out how to
replace it. Is it possible to replace individual lights, or do you have to
replace the entire light bar?


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Old 12-23-2003, 05:26 PM
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If you removed it, why cant you replace it? Yes you should be able to replace
the individual bulbs, you most likely have to remove the light bar to get to
them though. That is if the light bar you are talking about is in the front
between the headlamps?
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Hope this is the right NG for this question. I've got a '93 Villager, and recently went over the electrical system looking for something else, and found there's only one light still working on the "light bar". It's no big deal, as it's not a safety issue or anything, but I'd like to get them working. I removed one (burned out) light, but can't figure out how to replace it. Is it possible to replace individual lights, or do you have to replace the entire light bar?



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Old 12-29-2003, 05:16 PM
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Thomas --

The bulb comes out using the twist and pull approach. It's hard to reach,
though, and the wiring is subsequently attached to a wiring pack that
threads down and is difficult to follow. Also, what remains of the bulb I
pulled out lacks a glass bulb -- it's the base and the damaged filament
supports.

If it isn't meant to be replaced at all, then there's no point my driving
myself crazy trying to go through the complete process of removal. Maybe
it's not a replaceable part. That's what I'm hoping to find out.

Regards -- S Slatin

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If you removed it, why cant you replace it? Yes you should be able to

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the individual bulbs, you most likely have to remove the light bar to get

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them though. That is if the light bar you are talking about is in the

front
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between the headlamps? <slatin@attglobal.net> wrote in message

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Hope this is the right NG for this question. I've got a '93 Villager,

and
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recently went over the electrical system looking for something else, and found there's only one light still working on the "light bar". It's no

big
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deal, as it's not a safety issue or anything, but I'd like to get them working. I removed one (burned out) light, but can't figure out how to replace it. Is it possible to replace individual lights, or do you have

to
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replace the entire light bar?



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Old 12-30-2003, 01:49 PM
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Posted 12/23/06
"If you removed it, why cant you replace it? Yes you should be able to replace
the individual bulbs, you most likely have to remove the light bar to get to
them though. That is if the light bar you are talking about is in the front
between the headlamps?"


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Thomas -- The bulb comes out using the twist and pull approach. It's hard to reach, though, and the wiring is subsequently attached to a wiring pack that threads down and is difficult to follow.


Which is why I said you may need to remove the light bar.
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Also, what remains of the bulb I pulled out lacks a glass bulb -- it's the base and the damaged filament supports.


To get the correct number for the bulbs, ask your friendly neighbor hood
dealership, call NAPA, or any other reputable parts store.

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If it isn't meant to be replaced at all, then there's no point my driving myself crazy trying to go through the complete process of removal.


Why would it not be meant to be replaced? You have already removed one
bulb/socket. If the socket is damaged, replace it as well. Both can be replaced.
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Maybe it's not a replaceable part. That's what I'm hoping to find out. Regards -- S Slatin "Thomas Moats" <me@.me.net> wrote in message news:vuhr00ii7unrf3@corp.supernews.com...
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If you removed it, why cant you replace it? Yes you should be able to
replace
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the individual bulbs, you most likely have to remove the light bar to get
to
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them though. That is if the light bar you are talking about is in the
front
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between the headlamps? <slatin@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3fe8e01c_4@news1.prserv.net...
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Hope this is the right NG for this question. I've got a '93 Villager,
and
Quote:
recently went over the electrical system looking for something else, and found there's only one light still working on the "light bar". It's no
big
Quote:
deal, as it's not a safety issue or anything, but I'd like to get them working. I removed one (burned out) light, but can't figure out how to replace it. Is it possible to replace individual lights, or do you have
to
Quote:
replace the entire light bar?



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Old 12-31-2003, 04:36 PM
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Thomas --

I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions, but neither dealer nor
NAPA store have been able to give me anything except a price quote
for the entire bar.

I was just hoping that someone might have dealt with this problem
before and been in a position to answer with certainty either that you
can or you cannot replace a single bulb in the assembly. So far it
seems no one knows -- perhaps it just isn't worth the effort to get into.

Best wishes for the new year.


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Old 12-31-2003, 05:02 PM
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"Why would it not be meant to be replaced? You have already removed one
bulb/socket. If the socket is damaged, replace it as well. Both can be
replaced."

As I said both can be replaced.


<slatin@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:3ff36cda_4@news1.prserv.net...
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Thomas -- I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions, but neither dealer nor NAPA store have been able to give me anything except a price quote for the entire bar. I was just hoping that someone might have dealt with this problem before and been in a position to answer with certainty either that you can or you cannot replace a single bulb in the assembly. So far it seems no one knows -- perhaps it just isn't worth the effort to get into. Best wishes for the new year.



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Old 01-01-2004, 01:42 PM
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"Thomas Moats" <me@.me.net> wrote in message
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"Why would it not be meant to be replaced?


Good question. Perhaps you could ask a dealer, or a NAPA technician. I am
just an owner
of a vehicle, and I cannot speak for corporate America (or Japan). In any
event, neither
seem able to sell a replacement bulb, at least using the identification I
have been able to
provide.
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You have already removed one bulb/socket. If the socket is damaged, replace it as well. Both can be replaced."


If they can be purchased! But not if you cannot buy one!
(Perhaps only the entire light bar is for sale.)
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As I said both can be replaced.



If they are available for sale! But not if they are not available for sale!
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Thomas -- I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions, but neither dealer nor NAPA store have been able to give me anything except a price quote for the entire bar. I was just hoping that someone might have dealt with this problem before and been in a position to answer with certainty either that you can or you cannot replace a single bulb in the assembly. So far it seems no one knows -- perhaps it just isn't worth the effort to get

into.
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Best wishes for the new year.



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Old 01-01-2004, 03:28 PM
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<slatin@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:3ff49592_2@news1.prserv.net...
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"Thomas Moats" <me@.me.net> wrote in message news:vv6sjsi018pid8@corp.supernews.com...
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"Why would it not be meant to be replaced?
Good question. Perhaps you could ask a dealer,


I've worked most of my adult years at Ford Lincoln, Mercury dealerships. The
bulbs are replaceable as the sockets.


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or a NAPA technician.



NAPA parts people are not "technicians", I know that will upset some people, but
the truth sometime hurts.


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I am just an owner of a vehicle, and I cannot speak for corporate America (or Japan). In any event, neither seem able to sell a replacement bulb, at least using the identification I have been able to provide.



Have you taken the actual bulb and socket to a parts counter? There may not be
an actual "parts" listing for the bulb, but I'll bet you my next pay check it is
an industry standard bulb. The socket even though part of the harness is also
industry standard. The problem is really you, in that you are not "thinking out
of the box". Think about this, why would a manufacturer make a "special" bulb
and socket for a single vehicle in a small market? They would not! It's been a
long time but I'll bet the bulb is in the order of a 194 bulb and a socket with
four square tabs.
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You have already removed one bulb/socket. If the socket is damaged, replace it as well. Both can be replaced."
If they can be purchased! But not if you cannot buy one! (Perhaps only the entire light bar is for sale.)
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As I said both can be replaced.
If they are available for sale! But not if they are not available for sale!


They are . Take out the bulb, remove the socket from the harness ( leaving
enough wire to re-splice to the harness ). Take them with you.
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Thomas -- I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions, but neither dealer nor NAPA store have been able to give me anything except a price quote for the entire bar. I was just hoping that someone might have dealt with this problem before and been in a position to answer with certainty either that you can or you cannot replace a single bulb in the assembly. So far it seems no one knows -- perhaps it just isn't worth the effort to get
into.
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Best wishes for the new year.



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Old 01-01-2004, 07:08 PM
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slatin@attglobal.net wrote:
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Thomas -- I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions, but neither dealer nor NAPA store have been able to give me anything except a price quote for the entire bar. I was just hoping that someone might have dealt with this problem before and been in a position to answer with certainty either that you can or you cannot replace a single bulb in the assembly. So far it seems no one knows -- perhaps it just isn't worth the effort to get into. Best wishes for the new year.

this is gettng to be a can of worms..... hey: just dont say anyting
about the light bar... take one bulb out and go to any parts store and
dont say a word about light bars or anything.. show them the bulb and
tell them you want(how many are either missing or burned out of the
light bar)... replace the new ones where the burned out ones are located
and you have it fixed... and if you ask them about the light bar then
you gonna get them confused and they gonna get you confused and then you
gonna be back asking the same question all over again....
hope this helps.\
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:51 PM
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"Thomas Moats" <me@.me.net> wrote in message
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"Thomas Moats" <me@.me.net> wrote in message news:vv6sjsi018pid8@corp.supernews.com...
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"Why would it not be meant to be replaced?
Good question. Perhaps you could ask a dealer, I've worked most of my adult years at Ford Lincoln, Mercury dealerships.

The
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bulbs are replaceable as the sockets.



If so, I'm sure you can provide me with the relevant part number. Would you
be
so kind as to do this so I can take the part number to the dealership and
get a
replacement?


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