On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 02:12:02 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
<blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote:


Yeah, I'd say. I heard this morning that the average price for low grade
regular unleaded in the U.S. is $1.79. Here in So California, it's $2.21.9.

Monte <monte@here.not> wrote in
news:nfsa401gg8buud0955n39ecar8c0g591ri@4ax.com:


$2.21.9 Where? I just paid 2.39

In news:Xns94A138A7EBC28Mrk@207.217.125.202,
MRK <Mrk@nospam.com> being of bellicose mind posted:

Have you seen USA-Today? Gasoline to break $3.00 at a San Francisco
Shell station.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos...gasprices_x.htm
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- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM

"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in news:c6m1c.19532
$aT1.18439@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Where is my hybred

In news:Xns94A14AEE29518Mrk@207.217.125.205,
MRK <Mrk@nospam.com> being of bellicose mind posted:

Silly notion for the short term. Gas prices will drop back
eventually. No sense spending $22k bucks to get 45 mpg when a used
$5k car getting 25 mpg will do the job. You can buy a lot of $2.85
gasoline for $17k.
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- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM

"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in news:Vmn1c.19590
$aT1.15486@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

True but it seems every year the prices go up at this time and when they
come down it is always above the normal price. My frontier gets 13 mpg
so I am careful

In news:Xns94A161D0FE090Mrk@207.217.125.205,
MRK <Mrk@nospam.com> being of bellicose mind posted:

Agreed. The seasonal swings seem to be more severe each year but ...
.. what is a "normal" price? Perhaps higher than the previoius year's
price? For myself, I've got two motorcycles (45 and 54 mpg), a year
old Corolla (32+ mpg) and an old diesel powered Datsun pickup (32-35
mpg).

In newsu-dnQiBKqzOF9vd4p2dnA@bright.net,
David Rennick <drenick@aol.spam.com> being of bellicose mind posted:

First I'm not as inept or ignorant as you make me out to be. Nobody
"told" me squat. For $5k, I can pick out a pretty darned good car.
25+ years repairing cars professionally gives me an advantage. That
a "cheap lemon" is the best that you could do speaks only for your
experience. :-)

For instance, I just picked up a 1982 Datsun pickup, kingcab, working
A/C, 121,000 miles, straight body, cab height shell. The price? "If
you can get it running, you can have it." The problem was in the
controller for the fuel injection pump. It's a diesel. Got it
running and later, the electrical problem solved. Needed a clutch
master cylinder and a windshield. I've got about $300 tied up in
parts and title transmer/registration. It's gets 35 mpg on freeways
and 30 mpg around town. And diesel is a little cheaper ... but not
much.

But you go ahead and sign up for the 5 yr payment plan for that
hybrid so you can get 45 mpg. LOL Some "economy."

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- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM


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- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM

<Silly notion for the short term. Gas prices will drop back
eventually. No sense spending $22k bucks to get 45 mpg when a used
$5k car getting 25 mpg will do the job. You can buy a lot of $2.85
gasoline for $17k.

Who told you that gas was all you'd have to pay for driving a cheap lemon
around?

"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
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"Philip®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:

|For instance, I just picked up a 1982 Datsun pickup, kingcab, working
|A/C, 121,000 miles, straight body, cab height shell. The price? "If
|you can get it running, you can have it." The problem was in the
|controller for the fuel injection pump. It's a diesel. Got it
|running and later, the electrical problem solved. Needed a clutch
|master cylinder and a windshield. I've got about $300 tied up in
|parts and title transmer/registration. It's gets 35 mpg on freeways
|and 30 mpg around town. And diesel is a little cheaper ... but not
|much.
|
|But you go ahead and sign up for the 5 yr payment plan for that
|hybrid so you can get 45 mpg. LOL Some "economy."

If fuel mileage and how much you pay for fuel is all your concerned then you're
right; however, you're forgetting one thing that's not replaceable, air. How
much crap does your diesel put out in solid particles? How much do 15mpg
XTerra's (I have one) put out? How much does the 45mpg hybrid? Manufacturers
can build more fuel efficient cars/trucks and they've proven the technology
exists, now we have to insist they produce it. I'd sure love to have an XTerra
at 30mpg with the same or more hp. So you go out and spend $5k on a used car,
how much does that cost our future? Perhaps every car should have to pass 2004
emissions tests no matter when they were made or they shouldn't be allowed to be
driven.

Go ahead and flame, but you know I'm right. We're all to blame and you know it,
you might not admit it, but you know it.

BTW, when you change your oil, what do you do with it? Personally, I recycle
it. Why not just toss it down the drain or in the woods?

Thanks...
Brian Bergin

I can be reached via e-mail at
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